This has been a conversation long in the making. We have been talking. We have sometimes been stuttering and we've been speaking too. And whilst doing these and many more, we've been listening and very intently as well—because, what is a conversation if individuals only speak at each other? Listening is a necessity. As the actual words begin to gather and somehow crystalize into something more coherent, we have been at it, even in those nebulous moments when concepts may have been stronger than form or when form, seeking realization, would have danced with ideas until something not so palpable, begins to emerge. First, it will look like smoke, or even haze, in the long distance, then slowly but surely something appears … this is the route that this conversation has taken to get here …

kąrî’kạchä seid'ou (ks): Probably, we could start this conversation with this quote from 23-year-old...

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